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The plight of Leeds 306, and Leeds 31, 32 and 33
Should a modern (80s/90s) Single Decker be preserved eventually?

Present Group Vehicles
Leeds City Transport 591 Leyland Atlantean/Roe
Leeds City Transport 574/874 Daimler CVG6/Roe
West Yorkshire PTE 1807 Leyland Cub/Optare
West Yorkshire PTE 45 Bristol LHS/ECW
West Yorkshire PTE 1705 Freight Rover Sherpa/Optare
West Yorkshire PTE 1751 Freight Rover Sherpa/Dormobile
West Yorkshire PTE 5507 Leyland Olympian/Optare
A possible future acquisition
Yorkshire Rider 2004 Mercedes Benz 811D/Optare

Histories
Brief WYPTE History
Verona Green and other colours
Group History
The Fate Spreadsheet (Opens in Excel)
Comparing early and late preserved Olympians

Events
Local Rallies We May Attend

Extras
The Guinea Pig Page
The Other Bus
Your webmaster's PCV test

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Welcome to FATE.

This part of the website details the fate or current status (where known) of all buses new to WYPTE and Yorkshire Rider, and the non-halfcabs on its constituents, not to mention some vehicles acquired second-hand.

For our list of the status of all WYPTE vehicles with most survivors identified, click here for the fate MS Excel file. This will open in Excel - if your computer prompts you to download it, choose desktop (or a location of your choice), then once it has saved, double-click to open. If you do not have MS Excel on your PC, then an excellent free spreadsheet program available, called Open Office dot Org which I can personally recommend.

There is bad news and good news to be seen on this, for example a few Leeds Atlanteans (inc one Weymann PDR1/1, one Roe PDR2/1 and a few of the AN68/2R Leeds jumbo "Tommy Lord Box" examples like 591) survive in some form, one WYPTE national is around, some coaches survive as do some minibuses, there are a few Olympians still in service (in Yorkshire and elsewhere, including 5001 and 5002 in Chester), there are also quite a few WYPTE Roe bodied Atlanteans and Fleetlines in preservation. One of the mark 1 metrobuses in in preservation, and another was still in service until recently. Two of the Alexander bodied metrobuses survive, however there are believed to be no mark 2 metrobuses left in existance in this country (but 7604 and 7605 were exported to Sri Lanka as part of the Asia Bus Response and can be glimpsed in this picture (clue: purple internal window surrounds)). To numerically go to the end of the WYPTE fleet, two Leyland Leopard dual purpose vehicles, 8501 and 8534, survive in preservation. However, without wanting to dwell on it, there is bad news. The worst news is probably that the dual purpose Duple Dominant bodied Tigers are now believed extinct, with the last survivors 1662 and 1671 now being finally cut in Hardwick's yard, Barnsley. It appears though there are no surviving MCW MetroRiders and the same is true of the Iveco minibuses (unless you know differently). No MCW Atlanteans (as delivered to Leeds or Bradford) survive and the later MCW product the Scania Metropolitan is also extinct, as the once preserved 2612 was cut up in Barnsley some years ago. The unique Volvo Ailsa 3480 was also cut up for spares by Derby. Also bad news is that none of the Northern Counties bodied Fleetlines (delivered to WYPTE) survive to our knowledge.

Issues where we need help

Below, is reproduced a list of vehicles where we cannot find the DVLA record. This suggests they were withdrawn prior to being included on the DVLA computer (early 1980s) or, more likely, that they have been re-registered (especially the coaches):

Vehicle Type Body Original Registration WYPTE fleetnumber Subsequent Registration(s) Notes
Volvo B10M Duple E408RWR 1408 Re-registered 772URB, but plate now on a 1997 Volvo
Volvo B10M Duple E409RWR 1409

Volvo B10M Jonckheere A332YDT 1410 Re-registered GSU385
Volvo B10M Jonckheere A335YDT 1412 Re-registered GSU387
Volvo B10M Plaxton Paramount 3500 D781SGB 1415

Volvo B10M Plaxton Paramount 3500 D801SGB 1417

Leyland Leopard Plaxton Supreme JWU243N 1505

Volvo B58-56 Plaxton Supreme LUB508P 1508

Volvo B58-56 Plaxton Supreme LUB513P 1513

Volvo B58-56 Plaxton Supreme LUB514P 1514

Ford R1114 Plaxton Supreme MNW516P 1516

Ford R1114 Plaxton Supreme EYG524T 1524

Leyland Leopard Duple Dominant NLP172V 1539

Leyland Leopard Plaxton Supreme PNW298W 1540 Re-registered EBW40A
Leyland Leopard Plaxton Supreme LHE256W 1542

Leyland Tiger Duple Dominant CUB602Y 1602

Leyland Tiger Jonckheere B609VUG 1609 Re-registered 23PTA then B539XWX then something else
Leyland Tiger Jonckheere B611VWU 1611 Re-registered GSU340 (plate now on a Van Hool) then something else
Leyland Tiger Plaxton Paramount F619XWY 1619 Re-registered XRF1X then changed again – was PMT 47 and First 20002
Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D885MWR 1885

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D887MWR 1887

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D894MWR 1894

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D896MWR 1896

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D897MWR 1897

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D899MWR 1899

Freight Rover Sherpa Dormobile D506NDA 1906

Freight Rover Sherpa Carlyle MKII E933RWR 1933

Freight Rover Sherpa Carlyle MKII E936RWR 1936




1954




1956

Volkswagen LT55 Optare Citypacer E210PWY 2010 Eire registration 87-WH-2007 – most recently taxed there in 1998 with Scahill Co. Kilkenny
MCW Metrorider Metro Cammell Weymann E241UWR 2041

MCW Metrorider Metro Cammell Weymann E255UWR 2055

unknown
F794UVH 2061

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA552N 2601

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA553N 2602

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA554N 2603

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA555N 2604

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA557N 2606

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA558N 2607

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA559N 2608

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA560N 2609

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA561N 2610

Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA564N 2613
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA565N 2614
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA568N 2617
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA570N 2619
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA573N 2622
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA574N 2623
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA575N 2624
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA577N 2626
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA578N 2627
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA579N 2628
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA581N 2630
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA587N 2636
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann HUA589N 2638
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW642P 2642
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW643P 2643
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW647P 2647
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW648P 2648
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW652P 2652
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW653P 2653
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW658P 2658
Unlicensed
Scania Metropolitan Metro Cammell Weymann MNW659P 2659
Unlicensed
Leyland Fleetline Roe WUM107S 7107
Unlicensed
MCW Metrobus Metro Cammell Weymann PUA508W 7508
Unlicensed

Does anyone know where these vehicles are now, or what they have been re-registered to? The metropolitans are believed all gone (probably withdrawn before being created on the DVLA database) but I suspect a lot of the coaches will still exist, after several re-registrations.

If anyone can add to/correct the above, I would be most interested to hear from you. In particular, if the ones where we only have a "many years ago" reference can be discounted with a confirmed report of scrapped, then that would be good to know also. I intend to create a similar list to the above for Bradford and Huddersfield over time.

Requests

I am also looking to do more work on the FATE spreadsheet - does anyone want to help? I would particularly like to include all One-Man-Operated/Rear Engined Vehicles operated by Leeds/Bradford/Halifax/Huddersfield/Todmorden, and all the minibuses operated by Yorkshire Rider in the 1980s/1990s. Please Contact Us if you'd like to help. All that is needed is access to http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk website.

Does anyone have a list of the various ancilliary vehicles to serve WYPTE/Yorkshire Rider over the years? I am particularly trying to find out details of the towtrucks and the land rover vehicles used by Rider.

Regarding the 6001-6191 batch of Atlanteans, does anyone have a definitive list of what was delivered with which moquette (upper and lower). Downstairs there was (apparently) a green moquette (like on the Metropolitans) then two different versions of yellow/orange moquette and then the London style rectangles (yellow/orange/brown/black) whilst upstairs was either green or red leatherette.

Also in this batch, can anyone confirm which vehicles were delivered with a large side route number box, and which had the smaller one at roof level? We believe that the changeover is in the 6121-6150 batch, possibly at 6135/6136, but maybe there were some random ones also?

Regarding the Roe Olympians, does anyone know where the change of upstairs seating from brown leatherette to London style rectangle (yellow/orange/brown/black) moquette took place in the delivery order? Around 5120/5125 seems to ring a bell, can anyone confirm? From my own memories, the earlier ones allocated to Leeds (such as 5033, 5035 and 5036 all of which I remember well as my school transport along with 5507/5508) had the brown leatherette, whereas 5143/5144 had moquette upstairs - clarification needed though.

if you can help with any of the above, please do contact us as per the link at the top of this page

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